srkamath
07-10 05:43 PM
It may seem like there are more posts by IV members about EB2 than EB3
That does not mean that IV favors or is concerned about EB2 only.
What is IV ? - it is us ... the members .....
There may be more EB2 related posts and predictions / estimates than EB3 because,
1. The EB2 numbers are a little easier to estimate ....
2. Maybe members affected by EB3 retrogression are not posting many predictions / estimates, as it seems like a hopelessly long wait....
3. There are a few members here that are making their plight seem worse by posting, wild guesses or guesstimates that are gloomy (such as 50k EB2 IN each in 2004 and 2005) ........
4. No one has yet posted a good estimate (not a guess or guesstimate) of the EB3 backlog....
5. It takes a lot of time and patience to dig for reliable data......
That does not mean that IV favors or is concerned about EB2 only.
What is IV ? - it is us ... the members .....
There may be more EB2 related posts and predictions / estimates than EB3 because,
1. The EB2 numbers are a little easier to estimate ....
2. Maybe members affected by EB3 retrogression are not posting many predictions / estimates, as it seems like a hopelessly long wait....
3. There are a few members here that are making their plight seem worse by posting, wild guesses or guesstimates that are gloomy (such as 50k EB2 IN each in 2004 and 2005) ........
4. No one has yet posted a good estimate (not a guess or guesstimate) of the EB3 backlog....
5. It takes a lot of time and patience to dig for reliable data......
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07-17 08:38 PM
You guys rock. You have done what seemed like a dream far far away...my heartiest thanks goes out to you guys!
jsb
08-18 09:26 AM
jsb,
Now I think some major clarifications are needed here. The Receipt Date (RD) that is printed on the I-485 receipt is the date whenever queuing according to RD is needed. This is THE date wherever a FIFO is required and is as assigned as soon as the envelope containing the I-485 is received.
The ND only represents the date data-entry is made. This is the date which is mentioned erroneously as "received date" on the USCIS online system. Now this thing has been mentioned at USCIS liaison meetings by center directors and thro' AILA several times (I will post the reference as soon as I find it).
That said whenever I talked to NSC officers (not the National Customer SC non-officers or regional call center IIO's or Infopass ignoramuses) ..officers who personally were aware of the going on's at the service center they said the Notice date does not carry any value for case adjudication priorities and the CLAIMS 3 systems only sequences (or sweeps as they call it) as per the PD and RD (when needed).
Further, since I see all the notes made for my approved I-485 (thro' FOIA) including the worksheet completed by contractors. I clearly do not see any notations mentioned with reference to the ND on it...
That said, for the OP, since your RD is very close to the "official" processing date there are all chances that your application might have already gone under the eyes of a CAO (Center Adjudication Officer). Call NSC directly and ask since you are so close and especially since your date is going current next month....you want to make sure that your file is either pre-adjudicated OR assigned to an officer.
Normally, RD (on your receipt), and actual data entry date followed by the notice should be in quick succession. Logically, ND is just a notice date, therefore, when questioned they are correct in saying that ND has no relevance for any processing decisions. Due to high volumes of July/Aug 07, a lot of case files were just lying in warehouses for months before a center agreed to accept them. That's why you see online RD so different (and very close to ND).
If your statement in your first para is true, centers will have to do a lot of work for manually sorting thousands of cases before placing them in cabinets, which is quite impractical. Unless somebody is forcing them to do so, it is highly unlikely to happen. Note that issues under discussion are impacted by high volumes of July/Aug 07 for which systems are not designed. Also, as most cases are not PD dependant, USCIS systems don't handle them well, as they are not designed for handling PD based cases efficiently.
Now I think some major clarifications are needed here. The Receipt Date (RD) that is printed on the I-485 receipt is the date whenever queuing according to RD is needed. This is THE date wherever a FIFO is required and is as assigned as soon as the envelope containing the I-485 is received.
The ND only represents the date data-entry is made. This is the date which is mentioned erroneously as "received date" on the USCIS online system. Now this thing has been mentioned at USCIS liaison meetings by center directors and thro' AILA several times (I will post the reference as soon as I find it).
That said whenever I talked to NSC officers (not the National Customer SC non-officers or regional call center IIO's or Infopass ignoramuses) ..officers who personally were aware of the going on's at the service center they said the Notice date does not carry any value for case adjudication priorities and the CLAIMS 3 systems only sequences (or sweeps as they call it) as per the PD and RD (when needed).
Further, since I see all the notes made for my approved I-485 (thro' FOIA) including the worksheet completed by contractors. I clearly do not see any notations mentioned with reference to the ND on it...
That said, for the OP, since your RD is very close to the "official" processing date there are all chances that your application might have already gone under the eyes of a CAO (Center Adjudication Officer). Call NSC directly and ask since you are so close and especially since your date is going current next month....you want to make sure that your file is either pre-adjudicated OR assigned to an officer.
Normally, RD (on your receipt), and actual data entry date followed by the notice should be in quick succession. Logically, ND is just a notice date, therefore, when questioned they are correct in saying that ND has no relevance for any processing decisions. Due to high volumes of July/Aug 07, a lot of case files were just lying in warehouses for months before a center agreed to accept them. That's why you see online RD so different (and very close to ND).
If your statement in your first para is true, centers will have to do a lot of work for manually sorting thousands of cases before placing them in cabinets, which is quite impractical. Unless somebody is forcing them to do so, it is highly unlikely to happen. Note that issues under discussion are impacted by high volumes of July/Aug 07 for which systems are not designed. Also, as most cases are not PD dependant, USCIS systems don't handle them well, as they are not designed for handling PD based cases efficiently.
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rnanchal
02-04 01:32 PM
Alisa,
what should prevail is a matter of perspective. If you are an Indian then skill should prevail, if you are not, then of course it is the other way around
what should prevail is a matter of perspective. If you are an Indian then skill should prevail, if you are not, then of course it is the other way around
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hatighora
07-17 09:23 PM
Where are those ppl who were venting anger towards IV core team for posting news before announcement? Anyway it took lot of hard work for the IV team to continue on their mission even after so much fiasco by some IV posters too.
Great job and keep up the hard work for lots of work is still needed to fix this broken and flawed immigration system of this great nation.
Great job and keep up the hard work for lots of work is still needed to fix this broken and flawed immigration system of this great nation.
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s_r_e_e
11-11 05:10 PM
You cannot expect to report the crime/video to the cops without any repercussions for yourself. It is a federal felony to hire a foreigner without employment authorization (even if the person is not an illegal immigrant) - this means, if you are convicted, you can end up in prison, lose your property, pay fines and of course you will be deported. If you have been paying them and did not disclose this to the IRS, both you and they are liable for tax fraud, in addition. This is very serious. You should hire a lawyer if you want to deal with them legally.
I wonder where does people come up with such detailed info from. federal felony, lose your property , wow!!!! Even big corps hiring illegals getting away with just fines. Law Enforcement do not worry about the immigration status of the person. I know 2 incidents where my friends got in to car accidents with illegals . the other parties had no license, No id and No insurance. In both cases the cops weren't even bothered about their immigration status even though it was clear that they are illegals. cops gave ticket in some pseudo name they gave and they got away with no trace left.
I wonder where does people come up with such detailed info from. federal felony, lose your property , wow!!!! Even big corps hiring illegals getting away with just fines. Law Enforcement do not worry about the immigration status of the person. I know 2 incidents where my friends got in to car accidents with illegals . the other parties had no license, No id and No insurance. In both cases the cops weren't even bothered about their immigration status even though it was clear that they are illegals. cops gave ticket in some pseudo name they gave and they got away with no trace left.
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reedandbamboo
09-11 09:10 PM
Folks,
Thank you for your patience. Here is a short piece I wrote that I will be emailing to digital2k. In the meantime, I am posting it here for your FEEDBACK AND PERUSAL.
Please DO SOME FACT CHECKING for me .. for example, the dates, time frames, etc.
Thanks!
Around the second week of each month, a welter of activity breaks out on the online forums of Immigration Voice, a non-profit organization set up by employment-based legal immigrants in the US. Users on the site vie with each other to predict the cut-off dates for the next month�s Visa Bulletin. These dates dictate the hopes and lives of thousands of legal immigrants and owing to their sheer numbers, Indian and Chinese applicants make up the overwhelming majority of those who wait in line for employment-based US permanent residence.
Since 200x, barring a few anomalous months, the cut-off dates have largely languished between 2003 and 2004. While the annual limit of per-country allocated visas for Indian and Chinese applicants are exceeded by the number of applicants, the problem is compounded by the ongoing inefficiency of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). This inefficiency occurs at many levels of processing:
1) Slow processing times often leading to wasted visa numbers that expire at the end of the immigration year.
2) Lack of transparency throughout the process.
3) Lack of customer service in spite of regular ramping up of immigration fees.
4) Random movements, spanning months and sometimes, years, in the cut-off dates of the monthly visa bulletins.
5) Lack of communication between the USCIS and the Department of State (DOS) (the agency that sets the visa bulletin).
These are some of the most glaring inefficiencies that law-abiding, tax-paying immigrants suffer throughout the lengthy process which more often than not spans a minimum period of five years. However, the most egregious of the USCIS�s faults is the apparently complete cluelessness as to the number of applicants pending in their database. It boggles the mind how an agency of such import is unable to give a definite figure to the number of applications remaining to be adjudicated. That the United States, the most advanced country in economic and military leagues, can�t account for its legal immigrants speaks to the need for more highly-skilled immigrants to improve the status quo?
Thank you for your patience. Here is a short piece I wrote that I will be emailing to digital2k. In the meantime, I am posting it here for your FEEDBACK AND PERUSAL.
Please DO SOME FACT CHECKING for me .. for example, the dates, time frames, etc.
Thanks!
Around the second week of each month, a welter of activity breaks out on the online forums of Immigration Voice, a non-profit organization set up by employment-based legal immigrants in the US. Users on the site vie with each other to predict the cut-off dates for the next month�s Visa Bulletin. These dates dictate the hopes and lives of thousands of legal immigrants and owing to their sheer numbers, Indian and Chinese applicants make up the overwhelming majority of those who wait in line for employment-based US permanent residence.
Since 200x, barring a few anomalous months, the cut-off dates have largely languished between 2003 and 2004. While the annual limit of per-country allocated visas for Indian and Chinese applicants are exceeded by the number of applicants, the problem is compounded by the ongoing inefficiency of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). This inefficiency occurs at many levels of processing:
1) Slow processing times often leading to wasted visa numbers that expire at the end of the immigration year.
2) Lack of transparency throughout the process.
3) Lack of customer service in spite of regular ramping up of immigration fees.
4) Random movements, spanning months and sometimes, years, in the cut-off dates of the monthly visa bulletins.
5) Lack of communication between the USCIS and the Department of State (DOS) (the agency that sets the visa bulletin).
These are some of the most glaring inefficiencies that law-abiding, tax-paying immigrants suffer throughout the lengthy process which more often than not spans a minimum period of five years. However, the most egregious of the USCIS�s faults is the apparently complete cluelessness as to the number of applicants pending in their database. It boggles the mind how an agency of such import is unable to give a definite figure to the number of applications remaining to be adjudicated. That the United States, the most advanced country in economic and military leagues, can�t account for its legal immigrants speaks to the need for more highly-skilled immigrants to improve the status quo?
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Administrator2
09-17 11:21 PM
GCStatus,
We would like to pass the baton to you. Its not "my" website. You are free to take it. Kindly let us your a number to reach you and we will start the transition process.
Thanks,
BTW, no one is telling you the credentials, just letting you know that your rude posting about Admins hiding in a secret place is not appreciated. You cut-past one post, what about your other posts. Do you want me to post them here? Now lets get back to "ownership" and "rudeness" debate because it always turns out that way. You can say anything and if Admin responds, all of a sudden Admin is showing attitude, Admin is rude, freedom of speech, Ist amendment, Admins is dictators, Admins are like Hitler etc etc . Nothing new, we have seen this story repeat countless times.
And one more thing, you are busy and others have all the free time in the world. Is that right?
We would like to pass the baton to you. Its not "my" website. You are free to take it. Kindly let us your a number to reach you and we will start the transition process.
Thanks,
BTW, no one is telling you the credentials, just letting you know that your rude posting about Admins hiding in a secret place is not appreciated. You cut-past one post, what about your other posts. Do you want me to post them here? Now lets get back to "ownership" and "rudeness" debate because it always turns out that way. You can say anything and if Admin responds, all of a sudden Admin is showing attitude, Admin is rude, freedom of speech, Ist amendment, Admins is dictators, Admins are like Hitler etc etc . Nothing new, we have seen this story repeat countless times.
And one more thing, you are busy and others have all the free time in the world. Is that right?
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easygoer
08-21 06:34 PM
All I did was posting it in August EB2 India/China approvals thread about what I read and heard from an IO. Just to inform people. This visas are not available only for India/China and not for other countries????
If people think it is not appropriate, the admins can delete all the related posts and threads.
Our problem is that we do not want to accept this news. Unless we receive some confirmed news to contrary we should not blame someone who might have shared this news with us in good faith. Let's try to find out the truth first.
If people think it is not appropriate, the admins can delete all the related posts and threads.
Our problem is that we do not want to accept this news. Unless we receive some confirmed news to contrary we should not blame someone who might have shared this news with us in good faith. Let's try to find out the truth first.
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ItIsNotFunny
03-06 03:43 PM
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Heartly appreciate your gesture Naveen. I don't have way to change your poll result but keeping a side note.
Heartly appreciate your gesture Naveen. I don't have way to change your poll result but keeping a side note.
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07-17 07:11 PM
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02-26 11:33 PM
On a positive note, the best that we can do is, learn from our surroundings. We can learn a lot from Republicans to understand what not to do.
One of the main reason why Obama enjoys high rating - Republican party sucks. Who is making Republican party look bad - Republicans. The best response to Obama is not to pitch twisted Jindal against Obama, because that just makes Obama look good and it help Democrats. The better response to Obama is, let Obama respond against Obama. So simply don't respond to Obama, which will prevent Republicans making him look good. And like every politician, Obama will commit mistakes, which will cause the demise of Democrats. Its that simple. So what do we learn from this?
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Obama enjoys a high rating because of the cyclical nature of US political landscape. To understand the current political situation, a trip down history lane is important. Historically for the last 300 odd years, the country has two broad sections, believing in almost diametrically opposite philosophies. Federalists and Democratic-Republicans. Federalists believed in a strong central government whereas the Republicans believe in more power to the people and believed in self-regulation. Over the years, the tone/tenor of these parties have changed but the core beliefs have remained the same. Liberal Vs Conservatism, Tax cuts Vs Spending, Giving benefits to the comman man Vs giving benefits to small busineses who in turn will help the common man.
Obama's future success lies in how much he can pull the democratic agenda of 'helping 95 % of people who are middle class', building educational infrastructure, taxing businesses while spending to help the 'common' man, reforming healthcare while keeping deficit within acceptable limits ($500 billion maybe perfectly acceptable). A certain section of the republican party (read Bush+Cheney and gang) caused the republicans to take huge losses and gave Obama the boost. Tomorrow it can be Reid+Pelosi+Clinton who can cause the downfall of the democrats by over-doing the 'welfare' agenda. Thus I called it cyclical.
Yes, we can learn from our surroundings. But it is a little bit more complicated than what meets the eye.
BTW: I am neither challenging you nor calling you names. Just gave my 2 cents.
One of the main reason why Obama enjoys high rating - Republican party sucks. Who is making Republican party look bad - Republicans. The best response to Obama is not to pitch twisted Jindal against Obama, because that just makes Obama look good and it help Democrats. The better response to Obama is, let Obama respond against Obama. So simply don't respond to Obama, which will prevent Republicans making him look good. And like every politician, Obama will commit mistakes, which will cause the demise of Democrats. Its that simple. So what do we learn from this?
.
Obama enjoys a high rating because of the cyclical nature of US political landscape. To understand the current political situation, a trip down history lane is important. Historically for the last 300 odd years, the country has two broad sections, believing in almost diametrically opposite philosophies. Federalists and Democratic-Republicans. Federalists believed in a strong central government whereas the Republicans believe in more power to the people and believed in self-regulation. Over the years, the tone/tenor of these parties have changed but the core beliefs have remained the same. Liberal Vs Conservatism, Tax cuts Vs Spending, Giving benefits to the comman man Vs giving benefits to small busineses who in turn will help the common man.
Obama's future success lies in how much he can pull the democratic agenda of 'helping 95 % of people who are middle class', building educational infrastructure, taxing businesses while spending to help the 'common' man, reforming healthcare while keeping deficit within acceptable limits ($500 billion maybe perfectly acceptable). A certain section of the republican party (read Bush+Cheney and gang) caused the republicans to take huge losses and gave Obama the boost. Tomorrow it can be Reid+Pelosi+Clinton who can cause the downfall of the democrats by over-doing the 'welfare' agenda. Thus I called it cyclical.
Yes, we can learn from our surroundings. But it is a little bit more complicated than what meets the eye.
BTW: I am neither challenging you nor calling you names. Just gave my 2 cents.
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08-19 03:13 PM
We have taken an infopass appointment for the coming Monday and was wondering what to ask the immigration officer apart from the obvious,
"when can we expect our application processing?"
"Did we clear our FBI Name check process?
Please suggest us questions that are helpful to determine and help our application status.
"when can we expect our application processing?"
"Did we clear our FBI Name check process?
Please suggest us questions that are helpful to determine and help our application status.
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JazzByTheBay
02-25 03:10 PM
Let's get started on this push - it's a win-win solution for all concerned.
Attempts can be made to include the provision to file I-485 if priority date is not current (or make it such that it automatically applies... given this change).
jazz
Good one, Change to workflow should not be an issue, but we should have IV core support and reasonable to pool of money (not peanuts) to make this a success. I would recommend to run a funding drive, specially for this effort once IV core endorses this effort. In day to day life, Everything begins with $, you get what you pay for and nothing is free.
Attempts can be made to include the provision to file I-485 if priority date is not current (or make it such that it automatically applies... given this change).
jazz
Good one, Change to workflow should not be an issue, but we should have IV core support and reasonable to pool of money (not peanuts) to make this a success. I would recommend to run a funding drive, specially for this effort once IV core endorses this effort. In day to day life, Everything begins with $, you get what you pay for and nothing is free.
baleraosreedhar
12-18 07:05 PM
I have just now sent my contribution
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