Goodintentions
04-14 01:57 PM
Looks like this idea has come out of mere frustration. Do you know how many people want to immigrate to the USA? Do you know how many people are waiting in line? Do you think it is correct that only EB-immigrants should be given preference? Why because USA needs all of them? While I have used "you" in the previous sentences, I don't mean just you....rather "we".
If you have time-bound path to immigration, then right now, the whole Federal Govt. and all employees will have to work only on getting the immigration files cleared. Under current circumstances, I think the current system will get you a GC faster than if they switched to "time bound" today. Do you realize, how many people will suddenly be suing the Govt. for delays? There is no country which guarantees time-bound path to PR.
While I forcefully oppose the DREAM ACT and CIR, these did not give time bound GCs but only allowed illegals to convert to legals and in time APPLY for GC if they become eligible.
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Thanks for your comments.
I honestly do not understand why you seem to be opposed to this approach to alleviate the sufferings of so mant EB3 (esp) and EB2 friends. Discussion and debate are always good.
Here are a few facts:
1. Most of the advanced countries in the world - UK, Australia, NZ, Switzerland, Singapore and some Scandinavian countries offer a time based path to residency and citizenship for the educated class of people who come through the proper channel to work
2. In Canada, Australia, NZ (there could be other countries, but I am not sure) people can apply for a PR based on their OWN education and experience. They are not held hostage by their employers and harassed for ages. It is happening here because the lobbies are very powerful and are supported financially by the corporations to serve their interests. The system has been craftily designed to ensure long term indentured labour
3. In the entire scheme of things the real beneficiaries are the employers and the law firms
4. The system would be streamlined and the work of the government would become much simpler and faster. This is the way governments works in several western countries who offer a time bound programme
5. Every month our EB friends need not stare at the bulletin with great expectations and waste their time
6.Everyone can plan their future better. (I do not think I need to explain this)
Best wishes and thanks for your post..
If you have time-bound path to immigration, then right now, the whole Federal Govt. and all employees will have to work only on getting the immigration files cleared. Under current circumstances, I think the current system will get you a GC faster than if they switched to "time bound" today. Do you realize, how many people will suddenly be suing the Govt. for delays? There is no country which guarantees time-bound path to PR.
While I forcefully oppose the DREAM ACT and CIR, these did not give time bound GCs but only allowed illegals to convert to legals and in time APPLY for GC if they become eligible.
================
Thanks for your comments.
I honestly do not understand why you seem to be opposed to this approach to alleviate the sufferings of so mant EB3 (esp) and EB2 friends. Discussion and debate are always good.
Here are a few facts:
1. Most of the advanced countries in the world - UK, Australia, NZ, Switzerland, Singapore and some Scandinavian countries offer a time based path to residency and citizenship for the educated class of people who come through the proper channel to work
2. In Canada, Australia, NZ (there could be other countries, but I am not sure) people can apply for a PR based on their OWN education and experience. They are not held hostage by their employers and harassed for ages. It is happening here because the lobbies are very powerful and are supported financially by the corporations to serve their interests. The system has been craftily designed to ensure long term indentured labour
3. In the entire scheme of things the real beneficiaries are the employers and the law firms
4. The system would be streamlined and the work of the government would become much simpler and faster. This is the way governments works in several western countries who offer a time bound programme
5. Every month our EB friends need not stare at the bulletin with great expectations and waste their time
6.Everyone can plan their future better. (I do not think I need to explain this)
Best wishes and thanks for your post..
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srikondoji
12-19 07:41 AM
Pappu,
I think we should start a campaign where members will contribute $25 for every 2 months (recurring) untill another 6 months.
So, immigrationvoice would be adding funds to the tune of 175K every 2 months and also $25 every 2 months is not a big deal for most of us.
This way we are guranteed atleast some portions of our funds. Even if $25 is a lot of money, $10 can also be acceptible if they are paying a recurring payment. To sustain this campaign and maintain our presence in this space we need funds.
Let us know, who are ready to sign up for this campaign?
Campaign is $25 every 2 months (one payment of $25 for 2 months).
1) I am signing up for this campaign.
Best regards
sri
Thank you very much for starting this campaign. After this was started, the drought for the past few days has ended and 4 members have contributed today till now. Thank you very much for starting this. We will be able to use all our resources in the coming months to get something done if we have sufficient funds that meet our target of 60K by December end. If all members get active, there is no doubt that we will succeed very soon.
I think we should start a campaign where members will contribute $25 for every 2 months (recurring) untill another 6 months.
So, immigrationvoice would be adding funds to the tune of 175K every 2 months and also $25 every 2 months is not a big deal for most of us.
This way we are guranteed atleast some portions of our funds. Even if $25 is a lot of money, $10 can also be acceptible if they are paying a recurring payment. To sustain this campaign and maintain our presence in this space we need funds.
Let us know, who are ready to sign up for this campaign?
Campaign is $25 every 2 months (one payment of $25 for 2 months).
1) I am signing up for this campaign.
Best regards
sri
Thank you very much for starting this campaign. After this was started, the drought for the past few days has ended and 4 members have contributed today till now. Thank you very much for starting this. We will be able to use all our resources in the coming months to get something done if we have sufficient funds that meet our target of 60K by December end. If all members get active, there is no doubt that we will succeed very soon.
santb1975
11-20 07:21 PM
That makes it $ 1031 so far in 5 days. Let's see how soon we can get to the next milestone ($2000).
Anyone Interested in comming up with a Target?. My target is to finish a marathon ( $26.1 k by December 31'st)?. Can we do it?
Just did another $100.00 contribution, a small contribution to support all efforts to get something done to help our cause.
Anyone Interested in comming up with a Target?. My target is to finish a marathon ( $26.1 k by December 31'st)?. Can we do it?
Just did another $100.00 contribution, a small contribution to support all efforts to get something done to help our cause.
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Pineapple
07-17 07:26 PM
IV strikes a blow for the high skilled community!
Remember the time when members were ringing up the phones of Senators and Congressmen during last year's CIR discussions? I suppose we all came of age around then.. and grass roots members got the idea they could make a difference.. From then on, IV has been going from strength to strength, a snowball finally on the move.. leading to the flower campaign, then the rally, and now, this!!
My hats off to the core members, who have skilfully steered this sometimes raucous, but always enthusiastic ship.
I was going through my Paypal transactions, and totting up my contributions. The tally? not nearly enough!! So adding some more to the kitty.
Its a small price to pay for the biggest payback, of all: A voice!
Remember the time when members were ringing up the phones of Senators and Congressmen during last year's CIR discussions? I suppose we all came of age around then.. and grass roots members got the idea they could make a difference.. From then on, IV has been going from strength to strength, a snowball finally on the move.. leading to the flower campaign, then the rally, and now, this!!
My hats off to the core members, who have skilfully steered this sometimes raucous, but always enthusiastic ship.
I was going through my Paypal transactions, and totting up my contributions. The tally? not nearly enough!! So adding some more to the kitty.
Its a small price to pay for the biggest payback, of all: A voice!
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pointlesswait
03-09 12:43 PM
paid my dues for this month...
i cant believe USCIS is acting like some cheap ass organization. they generate billions of dollars of revenue..and they want us to pay 5K to develop a software to sort their database.
i cant believe USCIS is acting like some cheap ass organization. they generate billions of dollars of revenue..and they want us to pay 5K to develop a software to sort their database.
ns33
07-10 01:31 PM
yep..very few care about EB, its all EB2 these days, one of the reasons i am very close to giving up, difficult to convince people these days. I am guessing that most EB3 I's have simply given up or have been bulldozed aside. We know for a fact that there are thousands in a similar situation, but they don't seem/want or care to voice their opinions.
I tend to agree.... nowhere in the past discussions IV seem to have cared about EB3s. It is more frustrating to see this situation sincce Eb3's have been suffering for longer with no hopes what so ever.
And anyone trying to implicate that EB3s are less skilled are plain wrong - we got in EB3 limbo due to large corporations doing things by book (or for plain long term commitment out of workers).
Either way, IV leadership needs to re-iterate and re-emphasize at least once that this is not EB2 fight only but EB fight in general. IV discussions simply have gone EB2 biased only for too long.
I tend to agree.... nowhere in the past discussions IV seem to have cared about EB3s. It is more frustrating to see this situation sincce Eb3's have been suffering for longer with no hopes what so ever.
And anyone trying to implicate that EB3s are less skilled are plain wrong - we got in EB3 limbo due to large corporations doing things by book (or for plain long term commitment out of workers).
Either way, IV leadership needs to re-iterate and re-emphasize at least once that this is not EB2 fight only but EB fight in general. IV discussions simply have gone EB2 biased only for too long.
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PlainSpeak
04-15 09:11 PM
All I want is for you to recognize, that what your argument may lead to, is that the F1 may be altered to be dual-intent, rather than invalidating the F1 to GC path. It is just a matter of perspective. You must be able to see the matter from other points of view
And let's try to avoid bashing other immigrants. Bring up points that help us all, or at least a majority of us. For example, I have an argument that The below INS law is impossible to implement.
USCIS - I-Link Reference (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.f6da51a2342135be7e9d7a10e0dc91a0/?vgnextoid=fa7e539dc4bed010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=fa7e539dc4bed010VgnVCM1000000ecd190a RCRD&CH=act)
NA: ACT 245 - ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF NONIMMIGRANT TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE
Sec. 245. [8 U.S.C. 1255]
(a) The status of an alien who was inspected and admitted or paroled into the United States 1/ or the status of any other alien having an approved petition for classification as a VAWA self-petitioner 1aa/ may be adjusted by the Attorney General, in his discretion and under such regulations as he may prescribe, to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence if
(1) the alien makes an application for such adjustment,
(2) the alien is eligible to receive an immigrant visa and is admissible to the United States for permanent residence, and
(3) an immigrant visa is immediately available to him at the time his application is filed.
It is impossible to carry out #3, because the numbers just aren't there to arrive at a definitive conclusion, that an immigrant visa is available to a person.
What arguments for or against this can you make?
Ok lets say that F1 is changed to a dual intent visa (Which i doubt will ever happen)
But lets say it happens then shouldn't they go to the end of the line
Is that not the same logic used by EB2 against EB3 Porters ?
What ever your logic the fact is currently F1 is NOT and immigrant intent visa and hence there is fraud currently. Now what happens in future is not deterministic but what is happening now is plain to see
And let's try to avoid bashing other immigrants. Bring up points that help us all, or at least a majority of us. For example, I have an argument that The below INS law is impossible to implement.
USCIS - I-Link Reference (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.f6da51a2342135be7e9d7a10e0dc91a0/?vgnextoid=fa7e539dc4bed010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=fa7e539dc4bed010VgnVCM1000000ecd190a RCRD&CH=act)
NA: ACT 245 - ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF NONIMMIGRANT TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE
Sec. 245. [8 U.S.C. 1255]
(a) The status of an alien who was inspected and admitted or paroled into the United States 1/ or the status of any other alien having an approved petition for classification as a VAWA self-petitioner 1aa/ may be adjusted by the Attorney General, in his discretion and under such regulations as he may prescribe, to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence if
(1) the alien makes an application for such adjustment,
(2) the alien is eligible to receive an immigrant visa and is admissible to the United States for permanent residence, and
(3) an immigrant visa is immediately available to him at the time his application is filed.
It is impossible to carry out #3, because the numbers just aren't there to arrive at a definitive conclusion, that an immigrant visa is available to a person.
What arguments for or against this can you make?
Ok lets say that F1 is changed to a dual intent visa (Which i doubt will ever happen)
But lets say it happens then shouldn't they go to the end of the line
Is that not the same logic used by EB2 against EB3 Porters ?
What ever your logic the fact is currently F1 is NOT and immigrant intent visa and hence there is fraud currently. Now what happens in future is not deterministic but what is happening now is plain to see
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08-26 12:16 AM
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paskal
07-11 11:11 AM
first: my use of an extreme example to explain the EB category difference seems to have caused misunderstanding and offence among some people. this was not the intention, no slight was intended to anyone. sometimes one uses an extreme situation to make a point (3 yr degree in this case). I was not trying to stereotype and if that is how it came through...here is my humble apology.
i did reply to some of the posters by pm and had some intresting comments/discussion. its one of the nice things about this forum that people bring different insights into a problem...
qvadis, there is fundamental difference between allotting Employment based Gc on the basis of country of birth and based on job classifications/requirements. One happens to pertain to employment, the other is simply a way to mantain ahem "purity".
having said that, i do not favor the removal of country quotas in isolation- the redistribution of dates would make things better for long suffering people but it would not change the overall picture. therefore i support the package in its entirity (as does IV), ie recapture + STEM exemption + removal of country quotas. this would bring in substantially increased numbers and resolve the problem with ROW dates.
now that its established that this thread will not go back to its original intent, do the OPs mind if i close it? may be best to restart the discussion in a new thread?
i did reply to some of the posters by pm and had some intresting comments/discussion. its one of the nice things about this forum that people bring different insights into a problem...
qvadis, there is fundamental difference between allotting Employment based Gc on the basis of country of birth and based on job classifications/requirements. One happens to pertain to employment, the other is simply a way to mantain ahem "purity".
having said that, i do not favor the removal of country quotas in isolation- the redistribution of dates would make things better for long suffering people but it would not change the overall picture. therefore i support the package in its entirity (as does IV), ie recapture + STEM exemption + removal of country quotas. this would bring in substantially increased numbers and resolve the problem with ROW dates.
now that its established that this thread will not go back to its original intent, do the OPs mind if i close it? may be best to restart the discussion in a new thread?
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08-12 06:50 PM
Gaurav,
How much salary does a 12 year IT experienced guy command in India?
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Thanks
sure, I am a database administrator with 12 years of experience. I am oracle certified -OCP DBA in 9i/10g and 11g.
How much salary does a 12 year IT experienced guy command in India?
Can you PM me the email addresses of your contacts. I will get in touch with them for a job for myself. I am quite serious.
Thanks
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crystal
07-08 01:25 PM
Gnadhigiri on http://www.immigration-law.com/. It is interesting to note that Mathew did not quote Immigration Voice , but as East Indians . Many non-indians also sent floweres. I guess there is something to it
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chanduv23
04-11 10:50 AM
This is the sad reality. A lot of people applied using sub labor during the June and July fiasco. A lot of people made it through the July 15th deadline by atleast filing a 140 through sub labor.
Now USCIS is processing all these 140s and as they have old dates, they are becoming approvable.
As long as there are visas with old dates approvable - USICS will exhaust them. As long as USCIS exhausts old visas, DOS need not move the dates forward.
Now USCIS is processing all these 140s and as they have old dates, they are becoming approvable.
As long as there are visas with old dates approvable - USICS will exhaust them. As long as USCIS exhausts old visas, DOS need not move the dates forward.
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Pineapple
02-03 10:03 PM
Here is a good thread where retrogression, schedule A etc is discussed and explained:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2320
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2320
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sk2006
08-13 08:58 PM
Fred,
Congratulations!!
Just ignore the accusations. Two things here. Firstly, people are really frustrated here with all the GC stuff. Secondly, there has been lot of Anti-immigrants coming in and trying to disrupt the forums, making people inherently suspicious.
Enjoy your Green Card. Remember to support us lesser mortals in future. :p
-Doggy
As per him his GC is approved when his Priority date was not current.
This could mean trouble and he has to contact USCIS to correct the error.
Congratulations!!
Just ignore the accusations. Two things here. Firstly, people are really frustrated here with all the GC stuff. Secondly, there has been lot of Anti-immigrants coming in and trying to disrupt the forums, making people inherently suspicious.
Enjoy your Green Card. Remember to support us lesser mortals in future. :p
-Doggy
As per him his GC is approved when his Priority date was not current.
This could mean trouble and he has to contact USCIS to correct the error.
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ragz4u
04-29 05:12 PM
Hey, you just put the entire GC process in a nutshell. I understand a lot of folks are in the same situation, but I think IV is looking for stories that will help us push our case forward. The picture you paint is very morose and depressing (and I sympathizes with you, so please do not get me wrong) and we hope that this whole situation that all of us are in turns out to be a bad nightmare and we wake up to see some hope again.
Ragz4u:
Have you tried contacting post-docs (usually EB1 or EB2 NIW, non-IT folks) at universities pursuing research who are affected by retrogression. I think you can find a lot of people on the IIT forums that float around the web. I am sure we can find really successful(well almost) with sorry stories and restrained in career advancement due to EB retrogression.
the folks?
I am not aware of the forums you are mentioning. Can you point me in that direction?
Ragz4u:
Have you tried contacting post-docs (usually EB1 or EB2 NIW, non-IT folks) at universities pursuing research who are affected by retrogression. I think you can find a lot of people on the IIT forums that float around the web. I am sure we can find really successful(well almost) with sorry stories and restrained in career advancement due to EB retrogression.
the folks?
I am not aware of the forums you are mentioning. Can you point me in that direction?
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bigboy007
05-11 11:11 AM
This is best at ppl things narrow minded , since you are EB2 you want to have this.. EB3 can port to EB2 then EB3 will never get spillovers.. and if you have latest PD you might get in to this issue... So prepare now for another admin fix. shouldnt we stop looking at bigger picture and start only on the smaller things like this ? Can you support with numbers how EB2 can get line cleared ? If that is true then there is no need of Recapture... becoz when EB2 goes current all numbers flow to EB3.
As gc_check explained, all EB2 with PD<2007/7 will get the green card 2 years earlier if this can be fixed. I do not understand why IV can not discuss it with USCIS.
As gc_check explained, all EB2 with PD<2007/7 will get the green card 2 years earlier if this can be fixed. I do not understand why IV can not discuss it with USCIS.
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paskal
07-11 11:11 AM
first: my use of an extreme example to explain the EB category difference seems to have caused misunderstanding and offence among some people. this was not the intention, no slight was intended to anyone. sometimes one uses an extreme situation to make a point (3 yr degree in this case). I was not trying to stereotype and if that is how it came through...here is my humble apology.
i did reply to some of the posters by pm and had some intresting comments/discussion. its one of the nice things about this forum that people bring different insights into a problem...
qvadis, there is fundamental difference between allotting Employment based Gc on the basis of country of birth and based on job classifications/requirements. One happens to pertain to employment, the other is simply a way to mantain ahem "purity".
having said that, i do not favor the removal of country quotas in isolation- the redistribution of dates would make things better for long suffering people but it would not change the overall picture. therefore i support the package in its entirity (as does IV), ie recapture + STEM exemption + removal of country quotas. this would bring in substantially increased numbers and resolve the problem with ROW dates.
now that its established that this thread will not go back to its original intent, do the OPs mind if i close it? may be best to restart the discussion in a new thread?
i did reply to some of the posters by pm and had some intresting comments/discussion. its one of the nice things about this forum that people bring different insights into a problem...
qvadis, there is fundamental difference between allotting Employment based Gc on the basis of country of birth and based on job classifications/requirements. One happens to pertain to employment, the other is simply a way to mantain ahem "purity".
having said that, i do not favor the removal of country quotas in isolation- the redistribution of dates would make things better for long suffering people but it would not change the overall picture. therefore i support the package in its entirity (as does IV), ie recapture + STEM exemption + removal of country quotas. this would bring in substantially increased numbers and resolve the problem with ROW dates.
now that its established that this thread will not go back to its original intent, do the OPs mind if i close it? may be best to restart the discussion in a new thread?
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03-06 12:48 PM
I am in.. Thanx for the initiative...
akhilmahajan
02-07 01:37 PM
I would suggest you ask your father to file a writ petition in High Court or Lower Court , my husband did the same for a minor change in his father's middle name.I presume you are indian and Indian authorities have not changed they require a beat down in court then only they work that's my firm belief. In our case it was a simple case my father in laws middle name was misspelt, we had all the evidence they required
school leaving,college leaving,birth certificate,PAN card.
Passport of my father in law where my husband travelled as minor.
Plus we got a letter from District Magistrate/Collector
But still Washington embassy would not budge or entertain our application saying this mistake was not by them and i approach passport authorities in india who had done this .
Finally my husband had enough and my father in law filed a petition in Lower court ,it took a couple of months to get the facts straight ,but it was quicker than we expected. Got a court order attched to application got the correction done.
the problem is we dont approach the law thinking it is headache but the fact is that the issues was not corrected at the right time so we will have get the facts verified by someone credible and who better than law to verify.
And the plus is that no one can refuse your appication and give u the run around ( that you are facing now get this doc get that doc)
as if the consulate does not follow the order it is contempt of court or they can file an appeal against the order . My suggestion would be to go thru courts because the procedures for changes are not crystal clear
but my case is different as i dont have any spe;lings or wrong name.
i need my name to be split in to first name and last name.
school leaving,college leaving,birth certificate,PAN card.
Passport of my father in law where my husband travelled as minor.
Plus we got a letter from District Magistrate/Collector
But still Washington embassy would not budge or entertain our application saying this mistake was not by them and i approach passport authorities in india who had done this .
Finally my husband had enough and my father in law filed a petition in Lower court ,it took a couple of months to get the facts straight ,but it was quicker than we expected. Got a court order attched to application got the correction done.
the problem is we dont approach the law thinking it is headache but the fact is that the issues was not corrected at the right time so we will have get the facts verified by someone credible and who better than law to verify.
And the plus is that no one can refuse your appication and give u the run around ( that you are facing now get this doc get that doc)
as if the consulate does not follow the order it is contempt of court or they can file an appeal against the order . My suggestion would be to go thru courts because the procedures for changes are not crystal clear
but my case is different as i dont have any spe;lings or wrong name.
i need my name to be split in to first name and last name.
Dhundhun
11-22 01:13 PM
Based on experience from India:
Errors in Passport and Visa entries are problem getting fixed, and if not fixed, can become cause of problem anytime.
The passport issuing office generally can fix typo error in passport as "observation", which they will write in any other page of passport. Getting fixed in any other passport office (which has not issued it) is a lengthy process.
Myself, family of four had got couple of times Passport entries fixed and Visa entries fixed (between 1992 when I was frequent traveller). Typo errors are common. In case of passport errors they fix as "Observation" on the same passport (passport is not changed). In case of Visa errors, they cancel it and give new.
Obviously, once "observation" is noted in passport, you need to show everywhere that the entries are modified
Errors in Passport and Visa entries are problem getting fixed, and if not fixed, can become cause of problem anytime.
The passport issuing office generally can fix typo error in passport as "observation", which they will write in any other page of passport. Getting fixed in any other passport office (which has not issued it) is a lengthy process.
Myself, family of four had got couple of times Passport entries fixed and Visa entries fixed (between 1992 when I was frequent traveller). Typo errors are common. In case of passport errors they fix as "Observation" on the same passport (passport is not changed). In case of Visa errors, they cancel it and give new.
Obviously, once "observation" is noted in passport, you need to show everywhere that the entries are modified
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